on the first point, boehner has a tough time corralling some of the republican votes to vote for obama's plan. if the president brings the 250 plan to the house floor and it gets through the senate, wow won't see many republicans go after it, but at the same time, boehner is pretty safe when it comes to the speakership. you had guys like tom price or eric canter or other guys if they were making noise against him, there would be huge noise that he is in trouble, be but i don't hear that. i'm on capitol hill everyday and i don't hear that and i believe he is safe because there is not a challenger. >> if boehner is safe in the job, that does not mean to say he is at all relevant here, because they are negotiating past him right now and he is not a factor, is that right? >> yes, it is right, and that is partly because boehner proved na he could not get it through the house, and now the ball is in mitch mcconnell's corner, andi i can only imagine how upset mitch mcconnell is with boehner, with his inability to get republican support. and all for the eye when he is up for reelection in 2014.